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Dr Xxxxx: Dr Xxxxx. I think the main barrier to acceptance of the existence of aliens is the Paill Spectrum infection. This creates a background of mad people all too often willing to say just about anything. It is probably the main reason most of us learn to be sceptical about many eyewitness accounts. Yes it could be true. But it is far more likely that the person involved has a malfunctioning brain, creating imaginary events.

Erasmus:EErasmus. Yet, even if not all accounts of encounters with extra-terrestrials are believable, many reports are consistent and the claimants remain convinced that something exceptional happened to them.
Dr Xxxxx: Dr Xxxxx. Yes, but that is the Paill Spectrum process. People concentrate on an idea to a progressively increasing extent. These memory strands cross-link with real memories and create “bona fide” new memories.


Yes each individual component of a memory may have happened, but the composite is not true.

For example, I had one patient who believed that Gough Whitlam (a former Prime Minister of Australia) was born in their small village in Europe. The process here is that the affected person thinks about Gough Whitlam and his life. The affected person also thinks about being born in a small village in Europe. Cross-linking these two memories together you get- Gough Whitlam being in their small village in Europe. This cross-linked or composite memory is not true. However, the two individual memories making it up are true.

Brain Bug Brain Bug: sort of like the Paill Spectrum organism.

Goo: Goo the Numbat. I see.  Once the cross-link forms, the person – in terms of their memory – knows it is true – because their memory tells them it is true.
Erasmus: EErasmus. We are our memories. So if we remember it as being true, we will be absolutely certain that it is true because that is what we believe we have witnessed and remembered.

But Paill Spectrum routinely affects memories in this fashion, leading in effect to people telling unreal or false stories, and fully believing these unreal or false stories themselves as well. How can you doubt what is true if you absolutely remember the facts as being as you remember them?

Dr Xxxxx: Dr Xxxxx. It is easy to identify a Paill Spectrum affected person. When they are cross linking memories to that extent, usually the lights are going out and there is no one home. The thought processes are degenerating and becoming what is called “concrete”. Reasoning is disturbed, emotions are flattening off, and there are often substantial signs of physical un-wellness evident.
Kinkajou:Kinkajou. Disturbing. However there is often physical evidence and multiple eyewitnesses involved in many contacts or abductions. Again it is the overall weight of evidence which swamps evidence given by individuals.

Erasmus: EErasmus. Humanity has intensively investigated reports of unidentified flying objects. All in all, only about 5% of all UFOs are true unidentified flying objects. Of objects reported, 40% are aircraft, 35% are stars and planets, 10% are meteors and 10% are birds or flares or hoaxes. This leaves that 5% of genuinely unidentified flying objects – UFOs. (ETFOs)

UFO categories

Other investigators have commented that we all have the potential within us to fabricate an abduction story that is indistinguishable from the accounts of those who claim to have been abducted. So, there will always be an element of faith whether an abductee story is believed to be true.

But, if you cannot accept abductions as a real physical event – then what do you think is really going on?

Commandant: The Commandant . Our experience with many of the alien contacts is that the aliens are less than truthful with us. They are not friends or allies.

Kinkajou:Kinkajou. So here it gets complicated. People can tell the truth as they see it. Parts of people’s stories may be true. The story may be true but the message that the aliens are giving the people to spread may be deliberately created to discredit the witnesses.

In an experiment on hypnotic suggestion, a group of volunteers was hypnotised and told an abduction story. Subsequent hypnotic investigations showed there to be no difference between accounts given by actual and imaginary abductees. You could not tell which witness had a real and which “witness” had had an imaginary experience.

In terms of interviewing contactees and abductees (in 'reality', not by hypnosis), many researchers however suggest there are definite differences in the quality of the story that they collect from actual versus imaginary abductees. And there is a definite emotional impression about the abductors as well.
Most “abductees” talk about their abductors as cold emotionless automatons.

The “contactees’ experience” however tends to be with those EBEs whose morphology, dress and manner are closely similar to those of ordinary humans, while the accounts of “abductees” usually involve aliens who though being bipedal (vaguely humanoid), are still “otherworldly” in physique and behaviour. (Greys in particular).

Erasmus: EErasmus. Something has struck me about many of the abductee and contactees reports?
Kinkajou:Kinkajou. What’s that?
Erasmus : EErasmus. No one ever mentions that there is a toilet or a urinal present. No one ever mentions the presence of refrigerator. There are never any snacks or drinks or refreshments served. Or in the case of an abductee – there is never any sustenance given.  It is a natural human behaviour, when talking about new experiences (trips), to also talk about new food and new drinks that you may have experienced. And everyone talks about the experience of going to the toilet in Japan – because Japanese toilets have so much technology and sophistication compared to so many toilets throughout the world. Going to a traditional toilet in Indonesia, is an experience that many would prefer to forget.

And yet for some reason, no contactees or abductee ever seems to mention food, or drink or toilets in the witness statement.

Astronaut's Toilet : if you  have a gravity deficit Astronaut's Toilet :
if you have a gravity deficit- suction provided.

Goo: Goo the Numbat. Yes that is an interesting facet of the entire experience. I think very few of us would go anywhere without considering food or drink as part of the activity. And it would seem that many of the contactees and abductees are gone for sufficiently long periods of time that sustenance would need to be provided. Needing to go to toilet is an obvious emergency at many levels – pain, dirty smelly clothes, health and effects on social interactions. How many animals would you allow into your own home if they were walking around your home covered in faeces or urine. Probably not many.

Erasmus: EErasmus. One contactees in the 50s did mention something interesting about cooking food.
Kinkajou:Kinkajou. Such as?
Erasmus: EErasmus. The ET’s told him “we do not cook our food the same way as you. Ours is done quickly by means of rays of high frequencies”.
Goo: Goo the Numbat. Now that is very interesting since the information was provided  in the 50s and 60s .

Kinkajou:Kinkajou. Sounds like Microwave Ovens being used.

Goo: Goo the Numbat. I have just Googled the history of microwave technology. The Microwave cooking oven was patented on October 8, 1945. They were first used publicly in January 1947 in a Speedy Weeny vending machine in the Grand Central Train Terminal in New York City, selling freshly cooked hot dogs.

The first commercially available device was made by Raytheon, was called Radarange, was 1.8m tall and weighed 340 kilograms in approximately 1955, and was made by an appliance maker called Tappan. They were not very successful due to their large size (as large as a refrigerator) and high cost of approximately $1300 – which in today’s money is probably of the order of about $26,000 at least.

Microwave oven Microwave oven

It took till the 1960’s, until a new magnetron could be developed that could survive a no-load condition (when there was nothing in the oven to absorb microwaves). This made microwave ovens considerably safer and smaller, leading to the cheap little box microwave ovens that we are all so familiar with today.

Microwave ovens only began to become a standard part of households in the 1970s as the size of the ovens and their price reduced – leading to them becoming a standard part of most households. By about 1986 approximately 25% of households in the US had microwave oven. By 1997, 90% of American households owned a microwave oven.

So, the comment that we cook our food by means of rays of high-frequency”” is actually positively ground-breaking for the 50s and 60s. It provides a type of information that is not intuitive to the average citizen of the world of those decades.


Goo: Goo the Numbat.  This therefore implies some level of truth. They are telling us something that we do not know and that is not accepted information. Yet with the benefit of the growth of our knowledge of science and technology, we have been told something that is easily believable and true.
Erasmus: EErasmus. They must be bloody awful chefs though. Cooking with heat provides increased caramelisation of sugars and improvement of taste. Food tastes better if cooked with normal heat (infrared) rather than microwaves.
Goo: Goo the Numbat. Yes , although we still use microwave cooking a lot, in spite of the poorer taste efffcts. But many people still regard them as mainly useful for heating up food rather than preparing it in the first place. It implies an emphasis on convenience rather than the quality of the food itself. And that tells a lot about the Society of the ET’s.
Kinkajou:Kinkajou. Cooking food with heat, especially if smoke is produced, is probably not a really good thing to do on a spaceship with a limited environmental air. Though I suppose are filters could probably remove most of the cooking related airborne articles. Better to just zap your food than to fry or bake it- avoiding smoke production in a limited space such as in a spaceship.

Erasmus: EErasmus. Well there is that aspect as well.

Erasmus: EErasmus. A few interesting facts about microwaves:

Kinkajou:Kinkajou. Back to Business. To say that you use microwaves for cooking before this type of technology is accepted, widespread and well known; implies that you are acquainted with things /technologies that are not in the general common human domain. It implies contact with greater technology than that known to humanity.

So, accepting the presence of Aliens / EBEs as a truth, not as fiction, would be a likely outcome in learning of this new and real technology. Once we learn that microwave ovens exist, it would be a reasonable conclusion to accept the existence of the aliens EBEs who made them- when this technology is not known on planet Earth..

Dr Xxxxx: Dr Xxxxx. Yes it is the unexpected pearls of evidence that give the most credibility to the acceptance of the existence of UFOs and Aliens.
Erasmus: EErasmus. Humans naturally tend not to believe what  others tell them, even if the other human is a credible witness. Fantastic stories abound in the human milieu. Even though people are trusting and helpful, they often cannot accept much that is told as “truth” by others.
Dr Xxxxx: Dr Xxxxx. There is a reason for that. Paill Spectrum is an incredibly obfuscating disease. If you cannot trust your own mind and memory, what can you trust/ believe?

Knowing about Paill Spectrum and how it works on the human brain, you would wonder whether what witnesses are actually describing as evidence, are actually just imaginary stories or cross-linked memories that have Paill Spectrum affecting people’s minds as the basis of their genesis.

Paill Spectrum causes a flattened mood or affect and confused memory. This means heavily afflicted people are often discernably different to “normal” people. There are often uncontrollable anger issues as well, arising from the background of flattened affect, but anger issues can arise independently as well.

Dr Axxxx: Dr Axxxx . I think it would be correct to say that you really can tell the difference between a genuine story from an actual abductee and an imaginary story from a person whose mind has been affected by Paill Spectrum.
Erasmus:EErasmus. When interviewing people, even genuine witnesses often tell slightly different stories. So that can make it really difficult as well to assess the reality of a “contact” experience.
Kinkajou:Kinkajou. In America today, one in 11 adults i.e. 20 to 30 million people claim to have seen that they believed to be a UFO/ ETFO. This is an amazing figure which highlights the immensity of humanity’s experience with UFOs / ETFOs. However only 10% of these report their contacts to anyone. The media tend to pay far too much attention to the noisy activists.

However there are many claims made regarding contact with ETFOs and some of these claims/arguments do stand-up under careful scrutiny.
Erasmus:EErasmus. The message – assess every story on its merits.
Dr Axxxx: Dr Axxxx .  Of even more interest – 5% of the  US population believes that man has not reached the moon or walked upon its surface. It appears people are more willing to believe in UFOs / ETFOs than to believe the evidence of their TVs and Science. Humans have learned not to trust “witnesses”, perhaps as you say, due to the prevalence of the Paill Spectrum organism, discounting the likelihood of the veracity of the witness.

Erasmus:EErasmus. No wonder so many humans cannot accepts that aliens are amongst us in spite of the plethora of evidence. There are even charts of UFO shapes publicly available. The concept of the UFO is that much embedded in the general public’s experience.
Kinkajou:Kinkajou. There are expert witnesses as well. It is reported that there have been several thousand sightings of UFOs/ETFOs by military and civilian pilots. It is likely that there are many more sightings, but many are never mentioned.
Erasmus:EErasmus. Certainly I’ve talked to some people who are pilots. And if you talk with them and give them the impression of acceptance – they will tell you of the strange objects they have encountered over the years. Remember when you are flying, you have an almost open horizon with nothing around you. You have visibility for many many kilometres. But strangely not only do UFOs / ETFOs get seen at a distance, they are often surprisingly seen incredibly up close and personal. There are many reports of planes being buzzed by UFOs / ETFOs. 

(At a cruising altitude of 12000 m, the horizon is about 390km away).

Kinkajou:Kinkajou. Military aircraft have been lost confronting ETFOs. For example in Puerto Rico in 1988, a number of jet fighters were scrambled to intercept an ETFO. The UFO/ETFO flew over them, under them and around them. Then the Jets seemed to enter the object from underneath and disappeared. The jet engines could be heard no more.
Erasmus:EErasmus. In short , humanity has experienced abduction of jet planes by UFOs / ETFOs which have seemed to incorporate or swallow intercepting planes – leaving no trace.

Kinkajou:Kinkajou. So in such a case you would need to answer the question: Where did the actual military jet plane go if you cannot believe a UFO abducted it?

There are many statistics of reports of flying saucers. It is strange that we have yet to take them seriously when you consider that we have lost so many men and planes try to intercept them.

Kinkajou:Kinkajou. Similar incidents at the same time report a jet and helicopter disappearing from radar screens for about 20 seconds.
Erasmus:EErasmus. To me, this just suggests that the alien ship propulsion interferes with radar signals. The ship may be there but if both the signals are captured with high-intensity magnetism or gravity, the radar signals may well not “bounce” back to the detector or may be deflected away from the detector. It does not suggest that the jet or the helicopter were dematerialised and then materialised. Said interference with radar signals could be inadvertent effect of the drive technology or a deliberate effect of stealth technology.

And if an aeroplane was “sucked into” an alien spacecraft and then immobilised by gravity technology, it would disappear as soon as the door in the alien spacecraft closed. This is equivalent to the Faraday cage on a microwave door. Radio waves cannot penetrate metal, so simply closing the door of the spacecraft would remove its radar silhouette.

Kinkajou:Kinkajou. Again in 1988 in the Cabo Rojo area, a huge triangular object was reported by many witnesses. The radar systems of a Navy ship stationed  nearby confirmed that what was seen, was also witnessed on radar. Namely the small targets on the radar – the Jets, merged with the bigger  ETFO  , after which the big object seemed to split and all the bits then shot off at great speed. The Radar tapes were apparently immediately classified and sent to Washington DC.

Similarly in 1989 -1990, 2½ thousand Belgian witnesses reported a similar huge triangular object.

Overseas, a general named  Igor Maltsev in March 1990, admitted to hundreds of observations of UFOs / ETFOs by military within his country.

Jet Fighter
Jet Fighter; one of ours.

In October 1990, in the then Grozniy area , near Tbilisi, Georgia;   a pilot reported two cigar shaped objects nearby (to his rear), the first being 2 km in length and the second being about 400 m in length. The pilot reported the UFOs moving sideways at a great speed. When he turned to approach them, suddenly both targets disappeared instantly from his field of vision although traces of the target remained in the radar screen.

Erasmus:EErasmus. The observation of disappearing from vision but not disappearing from radar definitely suggests stealth technology focused on vision frequencies, (visible light). I imagine it would be difficult to incorporate both light emission and radar mission as part of the same stealth setup. The generation these very different energy level photons requires different technologies. In short, it becomes much harder to generate both types of photons from a single stealth setup.

The observation of disappearing from radar, suggests technologies that can either absorb radar (common in many of our stealth aircraft today), or distort the travel path of radar waves – such as I would imagine gravity technology would so ably do. Much of our technology is very complex and is tuned to achieving certain tasks in certain situations. A radar signal returning out of expected timeframes or from apparently inconsistent directions, would likely be tuned out as “noise” by the technology.

Goo: Goo the Numbat. So we hoodwink ourselves so to speak, but aren’t clever enough to realise it.
Erasmus:EErasmus. One way of looking at it.

Kinkajou:Kinkajou. Even President  Mikhail Gorbachev in response to questions on UFOs from a group of workers in the early 1990s, stated that “the phenomenon of UFOs does exist, and it must be treated seriously”.

There are even some reports from Australia from around the Woomera rocket range. Apparently the sighting frequencies rose dramatically whenever high altitude tests were being conducted.

Erasmus:EErasmus. They appear to be very interested in us.
Kinkajou:Kinkajou. There is also an extensive historical aspect to many of the sightings. During the Second World War, many USAAF crews were aware that UFOs or Foo Fighters could interfere with internal combustion engines. It was felt that this was essentially impossible because it would require a great amount of electricity to short out a B-29 engine.

Erasmus:EErasmus. Yes but to get engine effects, you don’t need to “short” out the engine. You just need to alter the ignition system. I would imagine most engines would have leads from a “distributor” to the spark plugs of the engine – making them vulnerable to these types of radio-frequency or magnetic interference. (Engine configuration is of course substantially different today compared to that of mid-1900s.) It would also be unlikely that B-29 engines are RF or magnetism shielded.

It’s not that easy to do for a start, especially to shield from very intensity energy fields. And what would gravity do to the operation of an engine? We make a lot of assumptions as to how things go or flow when we construct engines. Change any of these factors, and like as not, the engine will not work.

Foo Fighters Foo Fighters: the little white dots
Kinkajou:Kinkajou. Foo Fighters are commonly recognised as small  balls of various coloured lights – predominant orange, green or white. They appeared in the daytime or night-time and were reported as playing tag with Allied fighters and bombers in both the Pacific and European theatre of operation.

One pilot in a B-17 bomber reported a Foo Fighter suddenly appearing close to the aircraft. It stayed with the plane for 45 minutes. One of the gunners wanted to shoot down, but the plane captain said no. If it was hostile, it would already have tried to bring them down. He told them- let’s concentrate on trying to figure out what it is.

The big question really is what would it have done had they begun to shoot at it?

Erasmus:EErasmus. Good question. A question with no answer unfortunately. Let’s go back to the main game. You need evidence to believe.

Kinkajou:Kinkajou. One interesting class of evidence that says “believe” is the reporting of things of which we have no knowledge but which are subsequently is shown to be real, but unanticipated. One contactee who had been taken on a space flight, reported billions of fireflies were flickering everywhere, moving in all directions as fireflies do, and of many many colours. He witnessed these from inside the “UFO / ETFO craft” in which he was travelling.

In 1962, John Glenn the astronaut while orbiting Earth and looking out the window commented that he saw a lot of little things that he  thought were stars – a bright yellow / green colour about the size and intensity of looking at a firefly on a really dark night. There were literally thousands of these. A Soviet cosmonaut reported a similar observation.

Erasmus:EErasmus. The explanation was that these were simply a myriad of dust particles captured around the spacecraft. One commander of Apollo 10 suggested that effect is caused by sunlight shining on sublimated particles ejected from the engine thrusters when used for positioning the spacecraft. Gas is ejected. Gas cools and condenses. Ditto lots of particles.
Commandant: The Commandant. If you accept UFOs and their technology, you could accept the dust particle explanation. However, UFOs do not use ejected gases for thrust, so the explanation of coalescing exhaust gases, in terms of UFO evidence is unlikely.

It Is the unanticipated and unexplained which subsequently becomes mainstream (hence making the claim of a hoax unlikely), which validates the observations of the initial witness. If he saw something which we would never have predicted and which we have subsequently found to be possible, it validates the truthfulness of his observations. He saw it because it was there. He could not have made it up because he would never have known it would be there. But now, we with a greater experience and knowledge, know that such things do happen. Ditto: the witness must have been there and must have seen it.


Kinkajou:Kinkajou. How do we describe Alien encounters?  Is there a classification for alien encounters?
Erasmus:EErasmus. Yes.
Close encounters of the First kind: UFOs are seen at less than 150 m away.

Close encounters of the Second kind: Definite physical effects on animate or inanimate objects are seen. For example flattened  vegetation, scorched ground or animals being alarmed, car engine stalling, radios stopping, and headlights dimming.

Close encounters of the Third kind: Actually, seeing occupants of the craft. Most of this type of encounter occurs at night. The aliens will generally not communicate. They simply return to their craft with minimal interaction to the human witnesses.


Kinkajou:Kinkajou. If we cannot accept alien contacts and abductions as real physical events, then what is going on?

Dr Axxxx: Dr Axxxx.  I think it is interesting to consider the effects of the media on UFO sightings. The evidence is that in the year after the 1977 film – Close Encounters Of The Third Kind – there were 550 more UFO sightings than in the previous 12 months. Also spacecraft reported to be seen by UFO witnesses, got noticeably bigger.
Erasmus:EErasmus. This could simply be an increased acceptance of reporting of Alien contacts. Now that there is a movie about it, it is acceptable to mention and talk about things that may otherwise have labelled you as “crazy”.

Goo: Goo the Numbat. They could be hoaxes? People seeking fame or profit or both?
Kinkajou:Kinkajou. The reality is few witnesses seek publicity. Very few witnesses go the media or even tell their partners or significant others about the events. Witnesses have fragmented recall of their experiences before recollections are assisted by techniques such as hypnotism. Most witnesses realise that going public-  exposes them to ridicule and is very unlikely to make them richer. Most people in general will also challenge the sanity of the witness. (Although the reality is that most witnesses of alien contacts/abductions who are psychiatrically assessed do not appear to be suffering from a psychiatric disorder such as schizophrenia or Paill Spectrum.)

Dr Xxxxx: Dr Xxxxx. Psychiatric conditions have symptoms, especially if you believe in Paill Spectrum causing  all these conditions. People afflicted with psychiatric symptoms to the degree required to have “hallucinating” memories have definite changes in mood and affect that differentiate them from normal witnesses. They think differently as well. You can often tell they are not making sense with what they say, although they cannot see their errors.

Erasmus:EErasmus. If you have a lot of witnesses, the chance of events witnessed being a scam, drop alarmingly. The first basic rule of a scam is – don’t have a cast of thousands.
Goo: Goo the Numbat. It is not fair to fail to put the information regarding UFOs in the hands of the overall military community. There are people who are much more capable of dealing with information in the general community. You would think that if the community, (including the scientific community), had the opportunity to access all the available information/truth, then they would have got a lot further in assessing information and science than perhaps a small select group of military researchers working out in the middle of the desert (Area 51).

You would not expect the military to even have the facilities really to completely analyse what they have been dealing with.

Kinkajou:Kinkajou. Yes consider the example of just buying simple piece of equipment in the military such as a spectrometer. The purchase of such a gadget to the military would take months to consider, months to choose a model, months to apply for a budget allocation, and months to train the appropriate personnel. (And the administration process in the military is likely to be considerably more “administrative” than the general community. A comment true also of many bureaucratic government processes. Hence more delays. Hence poorer access to complex equipment. Hence poorer access to leading professionals in their field.)

In the private sector, if you have the need and the itch, you would probably be holding the spectrometer device within one or two weeks. In the public sector this process would probably require one to 2 years.

Witness the situation in the recent CoVid crisis. Huge queues of people were waiting in line to be processed for PCR/ NAAT tests. The problem: the government had not supplied enough pencils and folders to allow people to fill in their forms. So, forms can be filled in one at a time as the existing pencil and folder was cycled from person to person in the line. The reason for this though is obvious. No one had authorised a budget to allow the expenditure of money on such items. No one would also have known whether they could obtain these items from government stores. No one is authorised to take the initiative to solve this problem.
Ditto long waiting queues of people.

Goo: Goo the Numbat. I can see you are not a believer in the big bureaucracy.
Erasmus:EErasmus. Let’s talk a bit more about some of the contactees. There was a witness called Bob Lazar. Wasn’t he discredited? Same with a man called Adamski?
Kinkajou:Kinkajou. Yes in both cases, some of the claims are exaggerated, preposterous and appear to be the result of disinformation by their ” contacts”. However a number of the claims are sensible and verifiable. People are complex. I would imagine if you have had a contact experience with ET’s/UFOs and you tell other people about it, there would be immense pressure on you to prove or validate your claims or statements.

Erasmus:EErasmus. To work properly – disinformation must contain an element of truth – but not so much as to let the cat out of the bag. Perhaps we just have to accept that contact has been established –but not necessarily on our terms or according to our preconceived notions.
Kinkajou:Kinkajou. It would definitely appear that much of communication between EBEs and humanity, seems to fall much more readily in the category of disinformation than the category of information.
Erasmus:EErasmus. True. It is obvious that the ET’s/UFOs are not always that obliging, leaving the unfortunate witness high and dry and in effect being forced to fabricate some substantiation for their memories. What may have started as being a genuine witness to a genuine event, can easily become someone desperately seeking validation of their experiences, at any price.

So, I suppose, at the end of the day, parts of their witnessed experience may be true even if other parts of their witnessed experience are not.

Kinkajou:Kinkajou. To date the aliens have not been very forthcoming in validating the experiences of contactees or abductees. Many investigators of ET contacts believe that the information the contactees are given is simply part of a smokescreen established to cover up the real origins, purpose and motivations. Trans-dimensional travel over light years instantly, telepathy, moving physical objects including human bodies through solid walls or originating from Venus are all likely spurious claims made by EBEs to the human contactees/abductees. And their messages of love and of concern for humanity’s welfare seem more designed to discredit the witnesses to help the human race.

Goo: Goo the Numbat. So most of our experiences of contacting aliens appear not to be shedding any light on what is their purpose in being here?
Erasmus:EErasmus. It is like sifting through the ashes of a fire and wondering why the fire was built in the first place, never having any knowledge of the creatures that made the fire in the first place.

Kinkajou:Kinkajou. There was a man called Dan Sherman who used to work in the US Air Force and who became involved In the National Security Agency. He and other people who were chosen to work in the program were told that they had been chosen because it was believed that they were the offspring of pregnant female abductees, whose foetuses were genetically modified during their abduction.

Dr Xxxxx: Dr Xxxxx. An amazing claim. The immune system is incredibly active in every animal to stop “foreign” life forms colonising new hosts. We can routinely get animals to host zygotes of the same species. (Zygotes are fertilized egg sperm combinations undergoing proliferation). But to have an animal host an embryo of another species seems unlikely. There are likely too many differences to not have the immune system react to destroy the proliferating growth. So if there are foetuses planted within female abductees to cause pregnancy, the only conclusion you can draw is that the egg and sperm are derived from essentially “human” stock.

And today, DNA analysis would quickly determine if the DNA has been improved- and in what way and to what extent.

The big question then becomes “Do the Greys themselves have essentially human DNA”. I can imagine that if you have a slave race working for you, it would be a good idea to limit their capacity for replication so that they cannot escape their servitude.

Kinkajou:Kinkajou. Dan Sherman was told that as a genetically modified human, he possessed the latent ability to communicate with aliens. He was placed in a program to assist him to learn to communicate with the aliens.

After about nine months at PPD base 2, Sherman began to receive information he thought related to human abductions. Sherman discovered eventually this contact was a “Grey”. It told him that Greys had been visiting Earth for a very long time. Becoming increasingly uncomfortable with his work he eventually quit the organisation and the military.

Goo: Goo the Numbat. Conducting communication with aliens in secrecy suggests hidden agendas and the need for secrecy. It suggests dirty truths or unwelcome truths. It suggests one party trying to outwit the other.
If you do not understand what is on the table in a negotiation, it is unlikely that you will negotiate a good outcome for your team. Contacting and dealing with humanity in secrecy suggests a desire to obfuscate not communicate. Hence our dilemma. Our aliens real? Do they really exist? Since there is no official sanction of their existence, can we believe.

Kinkajou:Kinkajou. Well as they say, “the truth is out there”.
Erasmus:EErasmus. Yes Kinkajou, but there are lies as well.